This is a chronicle of my investigation into
the miraculous claims by a charismatic church of gemstones falling from heaven.
Extreme Prophetic - Due Diligence
Patricia King of ExtremeProphetic.com picked
story and created a series of 3 videos. In the first video she stressed
importance of due diligence in substantiating this remarkable "miracle".
The videos are available from The Gateway Church's
website (www.thegatewayintl.org) and from Patricia King's website at
In the first video, Patricia King considered prior dreams and prophecy by other members of the church as evidence for this event. She implied that this dream and prophecy confirmation was due diligence. The details are sketchy but other church member had a dream about these gems and that they were to take these gemstones to a jeweler at the Silver Lake Mall in Coeur d'Alene for evaluation.
In the first and second video, a featured
expert Rick Hurt commented that gemologist have looked at these gemstones and that they
cannot identify them. He mentioned that they are denser than diamonds
and "they don't fit into any of the slots". Rick
Hurt alluded that the only test left is
an "acid test" and then mass spectroscopy. Some screen shots from
these videos are available here at: video 1,
2, and 3.
I sent this email to Extremeprophetc.com and
answer in return. In their reply email
they thanked me for the information that I had to share with them and
they agreed that
due diligence is very important. They also informed me that they have
respect for Kari Browning and respect how she hears for God". Kari Browning is the pastor at the Gateway Fellowship Church
in Coeur d'Alene.
Emails Sent to Gateway Fellowship Coeur d'Alene
In addition, I sent a series of emails to The Gateway Fellowship Church in Coeur d'Alene. The first email was a general enquiry. I received a reply to this email and was informed that these gems were tested and they confirmed that these stones could not be identified. Further, I was informed that they do not "have bubbles or unfinished aluminum" and that they have "no flaws that a normal diamond would have". They stated they do not feel that they are to have any of these gemstones "acid tested" as that would be destructive.
I enquired on a Gemologists forum,
GemologyOnline.com, about what these stones may be and what a "acid
would involve. I was told that they had
never heard of an "acid test".
This exchange can be found here.
In the meantime, I reasoned that if deception was involved these
Gems would be reasonably inexpensive since the church claims they
have received 39 of them over the course of the summer! I also reasoned that
they might be readily available, for example, on Ebay.
See pictures below of these gems.
Round Brilliant Cut Zircon Bought on Ebay
50 Carart Round Brilliant Cut Zircon Bought on Ebay
Compare to images in first video
More Pictures of Gemstones Here
These Gemstones look identical to the ones shown in the videos, however the video images are somewhat grainy.
I have shown my Ebay Gems to someone who goes to the church and they commented that they do look like the
ones at the Church.
Gateway Fellowship Reply
At this point I sent a 4th email to The Gateway Fellowship after several weeks my email was forwarded to Rick Hurt.
Rick replied that a few professional gem buyers and sellers had looked at the stones but the findings are inconclusive. He told me that the specific gravity of these stones does not match anything in nature. The specific gravity ranged from 5.9 sg to 6.4 sg.
He also informed me that the sizes of the stones were perplexing at 45 to 55 carets. He had looked into artificial stones but found that they were large even for man made stones and that manufactured stones of that size are typically foggy.
He finally concluded that he was going to continue to try to identify the stones and maybe send them to a government lab but concluded "I don't know if we ever will know for sure. It may be we don't need to know anything more than where they came from."
I followed up with a 5th email in which I informed him of my find on Ebay. I even offered to drop the stones off at the Church for them to examine if they would like.
This is continously updated as more information becomes available.
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